Thursday, June 17, 2010

What Does The Hand Peace Sign Sideways Mean

Back to Sesame Street: this is a debate and it is not.




the answer that he gave the New Economy Forum of Joseph, who wrote a commentary in the previous post, we will show what a debate and what is not. He says in his polite message this organization:

"Our organization intends to be primarily a meeting place and discussion serene and open, where no one feels uncomfortable or violent. To do this we must preserve the good ways and some minimum procedural standards. "
Well, a debate is under RAE: " debate. 1. m. controversy (‖ discussion). 2. m. Strife, fight, fight. "

As we see, is a definition related to the world war.

" debate.
(Del lat. Debattuĕre).

1. tr. Quarrel, contend, argue, argue about something.
2. tr. Fight, fight. "
According to Wikipedia:
"
A debate is a technique of oral communication, which sets out an issue and a problem. There are members, a chairperson, a secretary and a public that participates. Not provide solutions only makes the case.
The condition of a 'debate' is given in different point of view that keep two or more opposing positions about an issue or problem. "
This is really interesting. Can you call "debate" to what the New Economy Forum? Where's arguments? Where are two or more opposing positions about an issue or problem? I've only gone twice but the first time I saw a man drop a roll call Trichet an hour full of vagueness and oligarchic activism and the second time I saw the president of the European employers and Mr Díaz Ferrán drop a monologue I think the word reform is repeated 40 times and defended the virtues of it in circular reasoning. Well, if this is a debate, war is peace, good is bad, freedom is imprisonment. Please devolvednos the meaning of words! From here I invite the organization of the "banquet masturbation" to revalue its activity and change the text of web page because it is missing the reality of what is happening in the halls of the Ritz.
Word Definition Reference:

"debate
Discussion m., confrontation of different opinions:
before voting on the amendment, was discussed.

Strife, fight,

is an ongoing debate with their prejudices.
"

This is a chat with further discussion of the Institute of Economics and Self-Management in the conference" Fall Libertarian " CNT Union:
capitalist crisis, effects on society and libertarian proposals from
Audiovisual CNT Madrid on Vimeo
. Talk of ICEA
going from minute 0 to minute 94 and then the moderator, presenter invited to discuss the ideas presented. Often the debate enriched the discussion, the complete, partial or completely refutes or qualifies. And nothing happens! Do not you die, or leave you a rash!

Now let's look at another talk and another thing that is not a debate, with written questions selected by the moderator. Note: can cause sudden desire to go to the toilet, boredom, attempted suicide in susceptible people or depressed, rebellious, like throwing a shoe, in short, do not know, a strong allergy to the manipulation of interest rates and pull the printing machine of little notes and other "unconventional measures"

Or at 0:01:49 From minute presentation is a talk in which we are told that is sponsored by BBVA. then speaks paid by the act, a certain Don Francisco Gonzalez, to 10.44 minutes. By the way, I love that moment, "my dear friend, Pedro Solbes." Remember I asked for an interview after the event and I said no, he was no longer Finance Minister. From minute 11 to 41:41 Trichet is the talk itself. He went on what the presenter called "conversation" to the final fireworks of toast with champagne in 01/20/1930 which invited to speak to the President of the Bank of Spain, which proposes a chinchin by the euro and the President Trichet attack on a rally cloying central bankers. If someone has a particularly morbid, like me, can stand up to the time of the clink of glasses in 1:23:14.

Now let's look at another talk and discussion organized by a few mates interested in a subject, who proposed in his union (CNT
) and rapporteur (anarchist economist José Luis Velasco), and is done with few resources, eager to learn and discuss:



The debate starts at minute 36.04 seconds of video.
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I'd like to answer to people who have written in previous post:

For "Le petit diable": thanks for diffusion. With media like the Internet, we do not need the lies and false media debates bought and sold journalists. With its evening we want to sell the idea that the world is a struggle between ethnic and fratricidal hatred, and that man is a wolf to man. Not so and know it. They are just the gravy.
"Citizen", indeed, all human beings are equal and have the same rights and obligations. Once we realize this, we will express our views in all contexts with the same ease. My "Bad Education" was thinking he could behave like a "discussion" of capitalists, politicians and journalists at a meeting horizontal. Big mistake! The equality is in the rhetoric and the law, and the demagogic you. A hug.

"Anonymous" truth is stranger than fiction and these meetings as "bream dialogues" (apologies to bream) will one day be displayed in a museum of the future self-managed as evidence of the absurd in which we lived in the early century, if fascism and war that prepare us failed to load it all before. Do not let them! A hug.

Rafael (Berrio), actually, I hope the 4 million unemployed people had gathered in general assembly at the plaza of the Ritz and the Stock Exchange to demand food that is spent on buying "stomachs grateful." Ah, to demand justice now called demagoguery and bad manners! A hug and get organized and fight. I certainly want to live in peace, but peace in the social he wants these people. No peace until we finish with the world's division into states and homelands (what separates me from my comrades Greek, Portuguese, Moroccan, French ...?). No peace until we remove the privileges of this political mafia-banker-capitalist-military-pharmaceutical-petroleum. I recommend a blog: colectividades.blogspot.com

But how economic theory can call to promote solidarity and mutual support between capitalists and competitiveness and the stampede from toil? I work 80 hours per week if it were to end hunger in the world or build sewers and pipes to improve access to drinking water. If it is to serve the New Economy Forum, politicians, NGOs mafia (there are some honest but always encourage the spirit of charity and justice not) tell me that for the minimum necessary to survive in this society.

Aritz, my ovaries are in place ... something stirred up by the nerves of rabies but I prefer to disturb me with the nonsense to be anesthetized. A big kiss.

Anna, do not thank me, I'm not Mother Teresa:) Sure you're dying to tell what these people think a real debate. Do you demand together? I think it might be necessary for us to give in a football stadium and a microphone ... Solidarity and mutual support.

"Precarioman" hey, it is curious that the word in wikipedia Forum has two meanings (among others):

Forum: "The forum is a different kind of meeting where people talk about a topic of common interest. It is essentially a technique of oral or virtual, conducted in groups, based on a general-interest which causes a "discussion."
is a technique of group dynamics that is a gathering of people where it is dealt with informally or formally a current topic to an audience that often can intervene in the discussion. Usually the discussion is led by a moderator. The forum's objective is to obtain opinions on a particular topic. "

Forum:" The Forum (in Latin, forum) was a public space in the ancient Roman cities for commercial, financial, religious, judicial and prostitution, as well as being the place where Roman citizens commonly performed their social life. "

To me the Forum for the New Economy reminds me more of the Roman Forum, is not it?

"to the very H. ......": well yes, when something goes in the media is that interested in someone.

Cristian, nerves did not allow me to say more things like, among others: solidarity with workers Marsans! Reforms Submit your asshole! Since I am a rude, is what has ...:) Yes, when we had legalized the temporary agency to be more rude reform after reform because we are squeezing more, until you reach the desired goal: the labor market and freedoms style Chinese Communist Party. Or if not, what makes Spain a pavilion at the EXPO in Shanghai? Is not it supposed to be a dictatorship, which carried a lot of people, there is no freedom? Ah ... now playing rally. Do not mind me, say I'm a demagogic. :) Un beso.
Mary (Mace), add me to facebook. That the CIA was aware that we are dangerous because they think!

Toni, yes, it seems that this is the show. I guess it's always been like that, only my generation had told us another fairy tale in schools. The rights and freedoms are only achieved if exercised. The 8 hours cost a famous strike in Spain (that of the Canadian), arrested and many repressed! Who are we to throw everything overboard that struggle? A hug.

Metalkas, health and strength to the part you played!

Jose, has had a great idea. We want an answer to this question and wish to YESTERDAY. They can not answer because they would have to say that there are classes, there can be some benefits in Switzerland or a tax haven, there are others that we have to pay the M-30 Gallardón to 2,000 euros in Madrid (including babies and pensioners). If a worker was believed the story of popular capitalism taking shares in companies or taking a loan basis, it is time to wake up and investigate how money is created, who creates it and how to manipulate its value.

I love the most correct tone used by the Forum, we see that they are not as rude as I am. Now I feel say they have not managed to be the meeting place and serene and open debate. Since then at me, I am a peaceful person, I get uncomfortable and violent. I get hives thinking about how many kitchens could be organized at the Ritz while I give them. It's funny to think that for some people that can be called "debate" and "colloquy." I sorry that you hustle to justify it and say he knew the rules beforehand. That's what I said a "companion" of illegal disposal work when I criticized in my subcontracted workers. "You knew what you signed when you hired a second time" (we threw every summer), he said. Yes, but that does not limit my right to complain because there are inalienable rights which can not be waived. Thanks for asking the question, Joseph.

Denmadrid do not intend at any time be a leader. In fact, that's part of the problem, wait until a leader comes to solving life. Why do not everyone take responsibility and conscience and freedom act accordingly? With regard to converting the Ritz in jail, because I do not see even in jest, I do not like prison for anyone, not even for corrupt businessmen. What if we convert the dining rooms in social standing? What this "prison under control of social media? "" Reeducation camps "? This sounds like the Maoist cultural revolution, Siberian camps and Stalinist purges ... and I get cramps ... pufffff ... Denmadrid, is what is needed is a real debate, an argument against another without fallacies of any kind. I would suggest to members of the Forum for the New Economy that "if we fix this together" can collectivized economy dy global currar to be made, not as managers but as plain vanilla workers, like other mortals. I know not what they seem, gives me no eh? ... They do not seem very willing ... to each according to his need, from each according to his ability.



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